For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.
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OpenBSD with CWM for a number of years.
I had more full featured DEs, but then I asked myself, "How often do I *really* move my windows around? Aren't they in the same place and shapes 90% of the time?"
Also, launching ssh sessions is dead easy.
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Additional responses in BSD Cafe Billboard and Reddit:
<https://billboard.bsd.cafe/post/235>
<https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1smrjm3/daily_driver_macos_bsd_linux_or_windows/>
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@grahamperrin @stefano I might have met that guy once https://youtu.be/EJBNrHInaQg?list=PL3KVgwMTWoO0WCec7t7-oHHLZY4fktTRr
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@rl_dane @darth Seriously, I think there is a different mindset between the two.
BSD flavours spin Unix in some ways, but they want stay Unix.
Linux is an Unix variant more "for accident", than by intention. There isn't strong emphasis in the Linux world to stick around Unix. I have impression that some distros even dislike it.
In place you end with countless clashing ideas how "is supposed to work better". It has its high and end, one is reinvent the wheel even where isn't useful at all. -
@rl_dane @darth Seriously, I think there is a different mindset between the two.
BSD flavours spin Unix in some ways, but they want stay Unix.
Linux is an Unix variant more "for accident", than by intention. There isn't strong emphasis in the Linux world to stick around Unix. I have impression that some distros even dislike it.
In place you end with countless clashing ideas how "is supposed to work better". It has its high and end, one is reinvent the wheel even where isn't useful at all.@rl_dane @darth I think one reason BSD don't get much attention is right about this mindset, and the impression that a chunk devs don't really like it very much.
Surely not the people in Red Hat.There isn't much heat for desktop BSD branches as far I see, beside because rarely succeded, and in part because "desktop" became synonymous of "linux mess", things that is very far from what BSD try to stay.
I cannot blame the feeling. Some decisions in the linux space makes me facepalm.
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@silverwizard Damn, I keep confusing one for the other and honestly your differentiation doesn't do anything to help me remember which is which. Because it does make sense to build things well. ^^
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@rl_dane @darth GhostBSD is a neat, unfortunately it gave me some issues when tested on my old pc.
And MidnightBSD.
Recently I have some new hardware where put on an OS, and will be good testing machine to set up it again.But I remember there were other efforts that didn't gone for long for a reason or another, and this gave some fame BSD and desktop don't stay much along.
Eh, a desktop distro is just stacking X/Wayland+DE, but I can understand where this myth came from. -
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@rl_dane @silverwizard @darth Slow adoption isn't much a choise. Companies and software can do FOSS thing, but in the details, they do like only Linux exists; or like for some hardware, the documentation and the rest has some stuff that don't cover.
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@silverwizard @darth @rl_dane Asking Red Hat to do something that isn't convulted, impossible.
At least Pipewire on Linux doesn't seems so bad, now if only the audio system itself would not be like an hanoi tower that catfight on the control of your audio volume.
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@silverwizard @darth @rl_dane Asking Red Hat to do something that isn't convulted, impossible.
At least Pipewire on Linux doesn't seems so bad, now if only the audio system itself would not be like an hanoi tower that catfight on the control of your audio volume.
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And itβs gotten a bit easier since then.
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