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For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

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  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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    #61

    @darth #OpenBSD since 2014, current on my desktop, servers are running the recent release.

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    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

      filis@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #62

      @darth using FreeBSD on servers since about 2000, daily driving it on laptop and desktop since about 2017

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      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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        @darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
        My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs.

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        • yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org

          @darth That's exactly rightβ€”I switched to #DragonFlyBSD as my main OS as soon as Linux started stinking up with systemd. Now I'm using #FreeBSD

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          @yrabbit systemd’s introduction and the problems it caused at the time was why I switched off Ubuntu at the time too @darth

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          • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

            For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

            You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

            evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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            @darth My main laptop, where I doing almost all computing now, running #FreeBSD for (checks notes) 6 years.

            For homelab server(s) I'm using #NetBSD because it runs everywhere

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            • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

              For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

              You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

              #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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              @darth@silversword.online I'm been using FreeBSD for my home lab and OpenBSD on my laptop for years now.
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              • outofcreativity@exquisite.socialO outofcreativity@exquisite.social

                @darth

                My Laptop is running OpenBSD since some years and I'm really happy with it.

                #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                @outofcreativity @darth Same.

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                • daemonhunterD daemonhunter

                  @darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
                  My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs.

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                  @daemonhunter thanks! The LLM laptop will be Linux + Nvidia? Or one of those 96GB Ryzen Ai chips?

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                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                    @daemonhunter thanks! The LLM laptop will be Linux + Nvidia? Or one of those 96GB Ryzen Ai chips?

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                    @darth@silversword.online The only preference I have is tokens/s and it must be on FreeBSD. πŸ™‚

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                    • glassblowerscat@wandering.shopG glassblowerscat@wandering.shop

                      @darth
                      Technically, MacOS is a BSD OS 😈.

                      @miah

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                      @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                      • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                        @glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.

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                        @miah
                        Haha, not going to argue with that.
                        @darth

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                        • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                          For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                          You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                          #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                          @darth OpenBSD on main laptop and one server, Linux on a desktop (used when I need/want to do something OpenBSD isn't ideal for – gaming or otherwise using proprietary software) and another server. NetBSD on a second laptop, and there's a Raspberry Pi running Linux hanging around here somewhere.

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                          • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                            For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                            You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                            @darth
                            #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                            • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                              @darth
                              #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                              @bryan @darth

                              My apologies for any offence - I had not realised.

                              Henceforth I will try to remember to explicitly label DarthMahmood.

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                              • bryan@dusty.ninjaB bryan@dusty.ninja

                                @darth
                                #macOS is the best #BSD. 😎

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                                @bryan isn't that funny?

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                                • glassblowerscat@wandering.shopG glassblowerscat@wandering.shop

                                  @miah
                                  Haha, not going to argue with that.
                                  @darth

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                                  @glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge πŸ™ƒ but I am aware of its underlying components.

                                  I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?

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                                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                    @darth Ayer instale freeBSD 15 en mi equipo de escritorio con XFCE, y estoy encantado por como ha mejorado el sistema, todo lo ha reconocido y funciona de maravilla, solo me falta montar una Unidad SSD en UFS para mis archivos e instalar las aplicaciones de uso diario, y por ΓΊltimo probar suerte si puedo instalar mis juegos de GOG.

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                                    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                      @glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge πŸ™ƒ but I am aware of its underlying components.

                                      I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?

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                                      @darth @glassblowerscat

                                      Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                                      I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                                      As far as certification goes..

                                      https://www.osnews.com/story/141633/apples-macos-unix-certification-is-a-lie/

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                                      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                        @glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge πŸ™ƒ but I am aware of its underlying components.

                                        I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?

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                                        @darth
                                        Weirdly, MacOS is the last operating system that does have UNIX certification!
                                        @miah

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                                        • miah@hachyderm.ioM miah@hachyderm.io

                                          @darth @glassblowerscat

                                          Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.

                                          I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.

                                          As far as certification goes..

                                          https://www.osnews.com/story/141633/apples-macos-unix-certification-is-a-lie/

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                                          @miah I’ve used Macs since high school, often exclusively. I love the Mac. But it is also true that the design and usability has gone downhill.

                                          This β€œUNIX certification is a lie” post has real No True Scotsman toxic Linux culture vibes to me, but it is also true that MacOS today is a far cry from the much more UNIX-y OS 10.1 days. I think the conclusion is probably correct: MacOS is still UNIX certified because someone somewhere in the company still cares, even if no one else does.

                                          @darth

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