For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.
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@darth using FreeBSD on servers since about 2000, daily driving it on laptop and desktop since about 2017
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@darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs. -
@darth That's exactly rightβI switched to #DragonFlyBSD as my main OS as soon as Linux started stinking up with systemd. Now I'm using #FreeBSD
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@darth@silversword.online I'm been using FreeBSD for my home lab and OpenBSD on my laptop for years now.
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@darth@silversword.online My main workstation OS is MacOS. I don't see any other OS substituting my Logic Pro X setup.
My main server OS is FreeBSD. Down the road, I plan to pick up a dedicated laptop specifically for running local LLMs.@daemonhunter thanks! The LLM laptop will be Linux + Nvidia? Or one of those 96GB Ryzen Ai chips?
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@daemonhunter thanks! The LLM laptop will be Linux + Nvidia? Or one of those 96GB Ryzen Ai chips?
@darth@silversword.online The only preference I have is tokens/s and it must be on FreeBSD.

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@glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.
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@glassblowerscat @darth only technically. It's also a giant mess.
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@darth OpenBSD on main laptop and one server, Linux on a desktop (used when I need/want to do something OpenBSD isn't ideal for β gaming or otherwise using proprietary software) and another server. NetBSD on a second laptop, and there's a Raspberry Pi running Linux hanging around here somewhere.
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@bryan isn't that funny?
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@glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge
but I am aware of its underlying components.I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?
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@darth Ayer instale freeBSD 15 en mi equipo de escritorio con XFCE, y estoy encantado por como ha mejorado el sistema, todo lo ha reconocido y funciona de maravilla, solo me falta montar una Unidad SSD en UFS para mis archivos e instalar las aplicaciones de uso diario, y por ΓΊltimo probar suerte si puedo instalar mis juegos de GOG.
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@glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge
but I am aware of its underlying components.I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?
Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.
I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.
As far as certification goes..
https://www.osnews.com/story/141633/apples-macos-unix-certification-is-a-lie/
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@glassblowerscat @miah to be fair I have very little Mac experience (never owned one) so I can't judge
but I am aware of its underlying components.I think Mac OS even has official Unix certification, yes?
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Its very far removed from being a "BSD". Yes it shares some common history, components, and libraries. It doesn't feel as cohesive or friendly as any of the other BSD's.
I've had a macbook with OSX/etc since ~2001 and at first they definitely filled the niche that Linux didn't which was a nice UNIX'y laptop with working hibernate, wireless, and cd writing capabilities. Its gone downhill over the years with constant changes in look, feel, and underlying system. It doesn't feel like "its gotten more polished over time". Every release feels disjointed.
As far as certification goes..
https://www.osnews.com/story/141633/apples-macos-unix-certification-is-a-lie/
@miah Iβve used Macs since high school, often exclusively. I love the Mac. But it is also true that the design and usability has gone downhill.
This βUNIX certification is a lieβ post has real No True Scotsman toxic Linux culture vibes to me, but it is also true that MacOS today is a far cry from the much more UNIX-y OS 10.1 days. I think the conclusion is probably correct: MacOS is still UNIX certified because someone somewhere in the company still cares, even if no one else does.
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