Modernised use of freebsd-update for minor and major upgrades to FreeBSD

[grahamperrin]

FreeBSD-ports-kmods and NVIDIA

Noted in Reddit:

… kmods are built on freebsd 15 until its end of life, and then they are built on freebsd 15.1.

which is why you get the problem when you upgrade to 15.1 of them not working and the kdl error, so you either need to build them from ports or use poudrire …

Essentially: users of NVIDIA GPUs should be prepared to build their own packages, for the non-base kernel modules, at times of minor and major OS upgrades.

[CiotBSD]

@grahamperrin

Brief digression:

Hum, I love Nvidia… hum, That's why I prefer to use an AMD GPU!
Hummm, nvidia: NO; it's NO way!
That said, I prefer to use an AMD GPU!

[grahamperrin]

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[grahamperrin]

Oracle VirtualBox

The FreeBSD-ports-kmods repo includes kernel modules for FreeBSD as a host but not as a guest:

grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods virtualbox-ose-additions-72
grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods virtualbox-ose-additions
grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods virtualbox
virtualbox-ose-kmod-6.1.50.1501000_1 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD
virtualbox-ose-kmod-70-7.0.26.1501000 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD
virtualbox-ose-kmod-71-7.1.18.1501000 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD
virtualbox-ose-kmod-72-7.2.8.1501000 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD
virtualbox-ose-kmod-legacy-5.2.44.1501000_7 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD
grahamperrin@clean:~ %

Guest Additions

The FreeBSD-ports repo currently includes modules for 15.0 that do load with 15.1-RELEASE.

An example with latest:

grahamperrin@clean:~ % kldstat | grep vb
13    1 0xffffffff837a2000    38d00 vboxguest.ko
grahamperrin@clean:~ % uname -KU
1501000 1501000
grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg query '%At %Av' virtualbox-ose-additions-72
FreeBSD_version 1500068
build_timestamp 2026-06-18T02:27:44+0000
built_by poudriere-git-3.4.8
cpe cpe:2.3:a:oracle:vm_virtualbox:7.2.10:::::freebsd15:x64
flavor xorg
port_checkout_unclean no
port_git_hash bbd7ab52a8a20722c901b3e4950cbb7e2b52581c
ports_top_checkout_unclean no
ports_top_git_hash 8fe72327c24ccd35a826c402c09af4831ccb6725
repo_type binary
repository FreeBSD-ports
grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg info --list virtualbox-ose-additions-72 | grep .ko
        /boot/modules/vboxguest.ko
        /boot/modules/vboxvfs.ko
grahamperrin@clean:~ % service vboxguest status
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/vboxguest: unknown directive 'status'.
Usage: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vboxguest [fast|force|one|quiet](start|stop|restart|rcvar|enable|disable|delete|enabled|describe|extracommands)
grahamperrin@clean:~ % service vboxservice status
vboxservice is running as pid 1960.
grahamperrin@clean:~ % su -
Password:
root@clean:~ # kldload vboxvfs
root@clean:~ # exit
logout
grahamperrin@clean:~ % kldstat | grep vb
13    2 0xffffffff837a2000    38d00 vboxguest.ko
18    1 0xffffffff837f9000    26be1 vboxvfs.ko
grahamperrin@clean:~ % 

[grahamperrin]

FreeBSD-ports-kmods and NVIDIA: additional information

grahamperrin said:

… users of NVIDIA GPUs …

From https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@TomAoki/116794082837691141 @TomAoki@bsd.cafe:

… Nothing other than x11/nvidia-kmod are built currently. …

So, for example:

grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods nvidia
nvidia-kmod-595.71.05.1501000  NVIDIA graphics driver kernel module
grahamperrin@clean:~ % pkg repos -e FreeBSD-ports-kmods | grep url
    url             : "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/kmods_latest_1",
grahamperrin@clean:~ %

Relevant lines from the pkg-list in FreshPorts:

/boot/modules/nvidia.ko
/boot/modules/nvidia-modeset.ko
/boot/modules/nvidia_gsp_ga10x_fw.ko
/boot/modules/nvidia_gsp_tu10x_fw.ko

[tychotithonus@infosec.exchange]

@grahamperrin It is unfortunate (for the general user population) that the transition from freebsd-update to pkg didn't turn this complexity into a wrapper before the transition, so they could ship simultaneously.

[grahamperrin]

The RELEASE announcement at https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.1R/ refers to a page that was originally a necessary duplicate of the upgrade instructions: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.1R/installation/. The installation page no longer exists:

• https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/commit/d357e2acefe52f4a767b5da0761b12892850b5ed
• https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/commit/4df494ffc469a8e3b8e4f760dc76e8223529143b

In the Wayback Machine: Upgrading with Base System Packages

… Systems running 14.4-RELEASE or 15.0-RELEASE can be upgraded as follows: …

• the instructions were incorrect for a pkgbase major upgrade.

Now in the introduction:

… 14.4-RELEASE or 15.0-RELEASE installations to 15.1-RELEASE. …

– and 14.4 is not mentioned for pkgbase:

… 15.0-RELEASE can be upgraded …

[grahamperrin]

Users of freebsd-update(8) with 14.4-RELEASE, please note:

• Upgrading with Distribution Sets has no real hint that non-base packages should be forcibly upgraded following a major upgrade of base.

Noted:

freebsd-update(8) may prompt to rebuild or reinstall all third-party software due to changes in system libraries. Follow those instructions as needed.

If I recall correctly, the instructions do not demonstrate use of --force.

Steps 28-35 above do include pkg commands that will ultimately force a combined upgrade from two repositories, excluding FreeBSD-base:

• FreeBSD-ports and FreeBSD-ports-kmods

– there should be comparable advice in official documentation.

[grahamperrin]

I added another step (currently 33) for misc/compat14x.

[grahamperrin]

Upgrading with Distribution Sets …

Also, there's nothing about FreeBSD-ports-kmods.