I was testing MidnightBSD
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So I was testing to see if the MidnightBSD install image would blow up on my Framework 13A and I am happy to report that it did not. I did not start the installer but switched to the LiveCD and as all of the system messages popped up successfully the last message before the login was the start of the
agedservice. Very sad considering that this project was the first to resist age attestation by prohibiting its license in states/countries where age attestation laws exist. -
Thanks.
Much respect for MidnightBSD and Lucas Holt @laffer1@bsd.network
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So I was testing to see if the MidnightBSD install image would blow up on my Framework 13A and I am happy to report that it did not. I did not start the installer but switched to the LiveCD and as all of the system messages popped up successfully the last message before the login was the start of the
agedservice. Very sad considering that this project was the first to resist age attestation by prohibiting its license in states/countries where age attestation laws exist.@etrigan63 I guess this will also have the same effect on BSD not only Linux? [https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/california-moves-to-exempt-linux-from-its-upcoming-age-verification-law-after-backlash-over-forcing-operating-systems-to-collect-users-ages-amendment-proposed-by-the-same-lawmaker-who-wrote-the-original-law](link url)
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Yes, but IIRC the law states that if the age bracket is not available, websites will have to assume that the user is a child in the lowest age bracket. This relegates open source operating systems as second-class citizens. I personally would suggest falling back to asking for the age bracket if you can't get it from the OS, but that defeats the purpose of shunting the responsibility to the OS provider from the content provider which is the stated purpose of the law (not it's actual purpose of creating a surveillance state).
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I cannot understand why such a silly law was even discussed.
The problem the law want to resolve is at "user facing service" level like SNS.
And at least theoretically, SNS service softwares can have user IDs / age verification data etc. completely independent from underlying OS.Why require OS to keep age verification data, even if user-facing services can ignore accounts on OS inside the services? Not at all understandable.
Does the law (I'm not a resident of places having such a law) mandate ALL applications to use OS side user IDs directly? If so, and there's unignorabully huge penalty, make just a bit of sense.I want to propose prohibiting to use OS-side IDs directly for SNS services and mandate managing by itself. It would make it easier to keep privacy if multiple services are running on single computer.
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I cannot understand why such a silly law was even discussed.
The problem the law want to resolve is at "user facing service" level like SNS.
And at least theoretically, SNS service softwares can have user IDs / age verification data etc. completely independent from underlying OS.Why require OS to keep age verification data, even if user-facing services can ignore accounts on OS inside the services? Not at all understandable.
Does the law (I'm not a resident of places having such a law) mandate ALL applications to use OS side user IDs directly? If so, and there's unignorabully huge penalty, make just a bit of sense.I want to propose prohibiting to use OS-side IDs directly for SNS services and mandate managing by itself. It would make it easier to keep privacy if multiple services are running on single computer.
@TomAoki
"Anything I don't understand is therefore easy to do."
-- Pointy Haired Boss from DilbertIt's a midterm election year. Politicians want to show themselves as being proactive and forward thinking (or get voted out). California is on a quest to plumb the depths of human stupidity. Sadly, they set the standard for other blue states.
Another example is the law they are about to pass that makes all 3D printers, CNC milling machines, and other automated manufacturing tools illegal (and their owners criminals) unless they can detect if a firearm or firearm part is being printed/manufactured and block it at the device. All these devices (if you are not familiar with them) share one thing in common: they process files called
gcodewhich is a series of X & Y coordinates and commands add or subtract material (depending on the device). The device cannot tell the difference between a firing pin, toilet seat cover, or a slinky dragon. The law wants all files to be sent to an AI for permission to print. On a device you own. It's political overreach at its finest since it is being pitched to eliminate "ghost guns" (unserialized weapons) and "protect the children". For the record, ghost guns are not undetectable or invisible to metal detectors. That is utter BS. Sure, you can print a fully plastic gun with all of the moving parts, but if you put a bullet in there and the plastic firing pin manages to activate the round, you will be lucky if the shrapnel kills you. "Ghost" guns have no serial number on the lower (the part with the grip) and cannot be traced back to the owner. Manufacturing guns for personal use is not illegal in the US. Selling or giving them away is. You can't even will them to your children. Any gun you make during your lifetime has to be destroyed when you pass. You can't even have them buried with you as someone might dig them out.Selling ghost guns is already illegal nationwide. Out of every 100 ghost guns confiscated, 1 might have a 3d printed part. What this is actually doing plays into the surveillance state setup that age attestation started. To make matters worse, they slipped the ghost gun thing into a budget bill and refused to approved the budget unless the ghost gun bit went with it. When a law affects as many people as this does, the people should have to vote on it. This stuff is being pushed by Left Wing Super PACs as they were the one's making joyous press releases when the law passed somewhere.
I will stop now.
carlos echenique
ce.photographydon't anthropomorphize operating systems. they don't like it.
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@TomAoki
"Anything I don't understand is therefore easy to do."
-- Pointy Haired Boss from DilbertIt's a midterm election year. Politicians want to show themselves as being proactive and forward thinking (or get voted out). California is on a quest to plumb the depths of human stupidity. Sadly, they set the standard for other blue states.
Another example is the law they are about to pass that makes all 3D printers, CNC milling machines, and other automated manufacturing tools illegal (and their owners criminals) unless they can detect if a firearm or firearm part is being printed/manufactured and block it at the device. All these devices (if you are not familiar with them) share one thing in common: they process files called
gcodewhich is a series of X & Y coordinates and commands add or subtract material (depending on the device). The device cannot tell the difference between a firing pin, toilet seat cover, or a slinky dragon. The law wants all files to be sent to an AI for permission to print. On a device you own. It's political overreach at its finest since it is being pitched to eliminate "ghost guns" (unserialized weapons) and "protect the children". For the record, ghost guns are not undetectable or invisible to metal detectors. That is utter BS. Sure, you can print a fully plastic gun with all of the moving parts, but if you put a bullet in there and the plastic firing pin manages to activate the round, you will be lucky if the shrapnel kills you. "Ghost" guns have no serial number on the lower (the part with the grip) and cannot be traced back to the owner. Manufacturing guns for personal use is not illegal in the US. Selling or giving them away is. You can't even will them to your children. Any gun you make during your lifetime has to be destroyed when you pass. You can't even have them buried with you as someone might dig them out.Selling ghost guns is already illegal nationwide. Out of every 100 ghost guns confiscated, 1 might have a 3d printed part. What this is actually doing plays into the surveillance state setup that age attestation started. To make matters worse, they slipped the ghost gun thing into a budget bill and refused to approved the budget unless the ghost gun bit went with it. When a law affects as many people as this does, the people should have to vote on it. This stuff is being pushed by Left Wing Super PACs as they were the one's making joyous press releases when the law passed somewhere.
I will stop now.
Left Wing Super PACs
What's a PAC?
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A super PAC is a type of political action committee that can raise and spend unlimited amounts of money to influence elections, but it is prohibited from directly contributing to candidates or coordinating with their campaigns. This structure allows super PACs to operate independently while still supporting political candidates through advertising and other means.
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Just my personal thoughts, but I think there are 2 "ideal" political systems.
One is "perfect heroic dictatorship", and another is "fully realized communism".
Both are impossible for human beings. So the correct answer should be anywhere in the middle.The former requires "100% perfect hero" that doesn't have self-interested at all. lim 100% is insufficient and real 100% is mandatory.
The hero "predicts" that anyone others have self-interested thoughts at any rate, comparing the hero's "100% pure public interest and public desire", with deep and intensive studies.
Yes, human beings cannot be as such, thus, "perfect heroic dictatorship" is impossible.For the latter, human being cannot be "perfect parts of the whole social system". Cannot make personalities to be 0%. lim 0% is too huge and real 0% is mandatory. Impossible.
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Many scholarly works on modern politics (real ones, not the ones focusing on the trends being artificially promoted by one side or the other) draw the political spectrum as a line graph with moderates in the middle and the left/right heading off in their respective directions. My personal observation is that this graph should not be a line but a circle. Starting with moderates and branching off as before, but both sides ending up at absolute totalitarianism regardless of which side you take.
@tomaoki your model is correct and on my graph the ideals would be located at the 90 degree and 270 degree positions with anarchy at the 135 and 225 positions.
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